Tuesday, April 6, 2010

Why must all new games cost $60?

Why can't games be like how other items are, priced on quality or something. For example 2 new games come out ODST and Assassins Creed 2, ODST (imo) is worth 20-30$, AC2 however is a deffinate 60$ game. A real life example would be cameras, you don't price 5mp cameras and 10mp cameras at the same price. Basically don't you think that games would be selling more if priced on their quality, but have a peak price of 60, and minimum price can be whatever the developers base the quality of their game on. Well just my opinion, but I think I make a valid point.Why must all new games cost $60?
1. That pricing makes no sense2. It's priced as entertainment like movies or music3. Not all games are 60 dollarsPlus if you know how and where to shop you'll knock off a good 10-15 dollars off all games at launchWhy must all new games cost $60?
I know not all games are 60, but at release the majority of games are 60, for example do you honestly think a couple new features are worth 60? well most sport games not only madden lol
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believe me you should not complain it's actually suprising that the price hasn't gone up and the games are a better quality and in some other places it actually costs like 100 hundred dollars for one game.......so
Nearly all games start at the same price - nothing much we can do about that.



But all games fall in price at different rates, and that is something affected by us as consumers. If a game sells millions of copies in its first week (Gears, Halo, COD, GTA) then you can guarantee a lot of people thought it was worth shelling out full price for, and the game will stay up at a fairly high price for a long time.



Take another game like Too Human where initial sales are relatively poor, there isn't much demand for the game and the price drops quickly.



This has nothing to do with how much money the developers spent or how long it took them to make, or any reflection on the amount of effort that went into it, it is purely down to supply and demand - they have a lot of copies to shift, but not many people want it, so the price drops.



Big name games like Halo ODST, AC2, COD MW 2 are guaranteed to sell millions of copies in their first week, so thinking they will sell them for $20-30 at launch is crazy.
They don't.



For example:



Batman: Arkham Asylum: $40

Borderlands: $40
[QUOTE=''guitarshr3dd3r'']Why can't games be like how other items are, priced on quality or something. For example 2 new games come out ODST and Assassins Creed 2, ODST (imo) is worth 20-30$, AC2 however is a deffinate 60$ game. A real life example would be cameras, you don't price 5mp cameras and 10mp cameras at the same price. Basically don't you think that games would be selling more if priced on their quality, but have a peak price of 60, and minimum price can be whatever the developers base the quality of their game on. Well just my opinion, but I think I make a valid point.[/QUOTE]In sweden all games cost 700kr or converted to about 100 dollars. I just dont se why complain about 60, I'd gladly pay that for my games
Pay no attention to jaysonguy he's just trying to cause drama.



Seriously though, I agree with that. There should be a standard to what video games should cost. I'm willing to pay 60 for major launches but some of the smaller games, some of the games that come out every single year with barely anything new to it? I would never pay that much.



And the argument that it's priced as entertainment is weak. Entertainment shouldn't have a fixed cost, it's all based on supply and demand and the general public simply doesn't want to pay that much for certain games yet they stick to that price because of logic like that. Basically, we get screwed over because we can't do anything about it and people continue to purchase items at high prices. They make money while we dig deeper within our pockets for games that shouldn't cost that much.
[QUOTE=''unkis4l''][QUOTE=''Jaysonguy'']1. That pricing makes no sense2. It's priced as entertainment like movies or music3. Not all games are 60 dollarsPlus if you know how and where to shop you'll knock off a good 10-15 dollars off all games at launch[/QUOTE]To Original poster:Your new here so heres a small tip Ignore this guy, he spends his day (and i mean entire day, notice he has 26000 posts) trying to pick a fight by refuting every post possible...But I agree with you, they are overpriced, especially because alot of them arent good, and how does his pricing not make sense? It's his opinion and he feels that odst is not worth 60 dollars but ASC2 is..... Does he need factual proof that ODST is not worth 20 dollars to open your eyes for you?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the backup ^_^ and I know those big name companies like know for sure that they will sell millions, but what happened to ethics? I mean games should be priced like any other items are. By the value and quality, you wouldnt pay the same price for fake leather shoes like real leather shoes right? and also where is borderlands available for 40? It's probably a deal or something, because the stores here sell it for 60 lol
[QUOTE=''Ubersoldat87''][QUOTE=''guitarshr3dd3r'']Why can't games be like how other items are, priced on quality or something. For example 2 new games come out ODST and Assassins Creed 2, ODST (imo) is worth 20-30$, AC2 however is a deffinate 60$ game. A real life example would be cameras, you don't price 5mp cameras and 10mp cameras at the same price. Basically don't you think that games would be selling more if priced on their quality, but have a peak price of 60, and minimum price can be whatever the developers base the quality of their game on. Well just my opinion, but I think I make a valid point.[/QUOTE]In sweden all games cost 700kr or converted to about 100 dollars. I just dont se why complain about 60, I'd gladly pay that for my games[/QUOTE]

Well see thats because it has grown onto you that the games are 100, and that 60 would be a great deal for you, but in reality both prices are ripoffs (unless its a quality title) but if games cost 100 here I doubt I'd have anything more than 5 games haha
Heh, I hope we some things where cheaper :/
@TC: Games here in Canada cost 79$(after tax) so enjoy your 60$. ;p

[QUOTE=''guitarshr3dd3r'']Why can't games be like how other items are, priced on quality or something. For example 2 new games come out ODST and Assassins Creed 2, ODST (imo) is worth 20-30$, AC2 however is a deffinate 60$ game. A real life example would be cameras, you don't price 5mp cameras and 10mp cameras at the same price. Basically don't you think that games would be selling more if priced on their quality, but have a peak price of 60, and minimum price can be whatever the developers base the quality of their game on. Well just my opinion, but I think I make a valid point.[/QUOTE]Jasonguy is VERY annoying.With that out of the way I am going to disagree with you as well because of lack of common sense. You are comparing ODST with Assassin's Creed II. HELLO, Assassin's Creed II is not out, so how do you know that it's worth $60?In my opinion, which I state repeatedly, about 2% of new console games are worth $60. But you are being counter productive to your own arguement, and you in fact are part of the reason why new games are almost all $60. You see previews, jump to conclusions, imagine games how YOU think they will turn out, then you go put money down with a preorder. When people stop jumping on bandwagons, preordering new software titles (which is completely unnecessary), and paying $60 for bad titles, the price will drop.You want cheaper games? Quit playing into the game companies and Gamestop hands, and refuse to buy these inferior games that cost 2-3 times what they are actually worth. Wait for price drops, and never preorder a game. When a game is highly preordered it gives the company 0 incentive to refine it and make it worth your money. They can look at those numbers and say ''preorder X + expected additional sales Y = Good Enough, on to the next incomplete turd we can push out the door''.Think Assassin's Creed II looks good? Imagine if NO ONE would have preordered it. You would be getting twice the game for around $40 because Ubisoft would be thinking they had a disaster on their hands.
Ah you put forth a well spoken point, but like I don't know exactly how AC2 will be I was just throwing a random game, but yes it's all about commercial things and company/business outcomes, but see I'd be more than willing to stop supporting the exaggerated pricing of games, but only if I knew I had followers, unfortunately me not buying games alone is justn ot enough to make a difference
[QUOTE=''Jaysonguy'']1. That pricing makes no sense2. It's priced as entertainment like movies or music3. Not all games are 60 dollarsPlus if you know how and where to shop you'll knock off a good 10-15 dollars off all games at launch[/QUOTE]



yeah like shop at game stop and if you have this place near you called Play N Trade there realy good or just buy used games from gaming stores there check so you dont need to worry about it not working and its like 20 bucks cheaper
Last Gen it was $50 this gen its $60, I'd seriously consider pirating video games if it got to that $70 mark.
I'm sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you personally, because I didn't mean to. I'm also anticipating Assassin's Creed II. I liked the first one, but I thought it was extremely repetetive and somewhat glitchy. I'm waiting to make sure they have addressed all of those issues before I would be willing to drop $60 for it.Last year at this time I probably bought an average of 2-3 new games per month which I would think was above average. I basically got sick and tired of incomplete, inferior games, that would have been $20 in the last couple of PS2 generation years. I also am totally disgusted by ''preorder exclusives'', and new game only content. Buying a video game should not be like buying a car. Ah well, now I am down to buying about one new title every 2-3 months, and only if I think the quality is there, which is not very much.You are right, one person is not enough to make a difference. But me + you = 2. Plus all of the people agreeing with you in this post, plus the dozens I have seen posting the same points is going to eventually have an effect. Fads and trends do not last forever, and video gaming is no exception. If they continually raise prices, drop quality, and make the customer feel screwed (by the preorder exclusives that not everyone can get, and new game only content), the entire industry will crash.
Because publishers want to make as much money off the games as possible. Low quality games that sell poorly tend to go down in price fairly quickly anyway.
[QUOTE=''archvile_78'']@TC: Games here in Canada cost 79$(after tax) so enjoy your 60$. ;p
[/QUOTE] No wonder they have $40 deals there for games like Batman AA and Borderlands.
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